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VOLUME 10, ISSUE 8,           SEPTEMBER, 2008
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A quick jump to the articles in this issue:
Commander's Comments, Adjutant's Report, Sept Program (next), July Program (last),
Camp Officers, Longstreet's First Corps, Funds, Commentary, Calendar, Genealogy, Humor,


The "dog days of summer" are beginning to wind down  for  us
all  -  although you wouldn't know it just yet with the high
temperatures and humidity that are still with us these days.
It sort of reminds me of the many letters and correspondence
that I (and I'm sure many of you) have read over  the  years
of  the  Confederate soldiers that fought in Virginia during
this time of year - how a lot of them had never  experienced
the  oppressive heat and humidity that is a Virginia summer,
and didn't know how to deal with it.  Yet, these  brave  and
hardy men fought to the very end to protect and defend their
homes and their families.                                   

With this beginning my  second  year  as  Commander  of  the
General  James  Longstreet Camp #1247, I am able to sit back
and look at where the Camp is today in comparison  to  where
we were at the beginning of my command of the camp just last
year.  Our membership totals have  remained  relatively  the
same - while we have had several new members join our ranks,
and  we  have  had  some   transfers   -   we   have   also,
unfortunately,   lost   some  members  as  well.   Our  Camp
membership numbers are still strong, and this year  I  would
really  like to see those numbers grow even stronger - and I
truly believe with your help and support they can indeed  do
just  that.   I  see a lot of potential and involvement with
the Virginia Division-SCV and the  Longstreet  Camp  in  the
coming years.                                               

One  opportunity  that  has  excited  the  Camp's  Executive
Committee and me is the need to choose  new  leadership  for
the  Camp in the coming year.  This is not to suggest that I
have not enjoyed my tenure as Commander of this Camp (I most
certainly  have),  but  it is more of a reality check if you
would - and I am  looking  to  you  -  the  members  of  the
Longstreet  Camp to help us out with this task.  How you may
ask??   It's  simple  really  -  become  involved  with  the
Executive  Committee meetings and attend those meetings on a
regular basis (we meet the 2nd Monday of every month that we
have  a camp meeting at Panera's,10301 West Broad Street, at
6  p.m,).   Let  any/all  members  of  the  Camp   Executive
Committee  know  of your interest in serving in a leadership
capacity  within  the  Camp;  be   involved   with   outside
activities  that  may  (or  may  not) concern the Longstreet
Camp, but that are SCV-related (parades; State  Fair  booth;
grave  site dedications; etc.).  My invitation stands to all
Longstreet Camp members who are interested, but  please  let
the  Executive  Committee  know  first  of  your interest in
attending a meeting.                                        

The State Fair of Virginia is just around the corner (by the
time  you  will  receive this), and once again Commander Rob
Millikin has asked for volunteers  to  help  man  the  SCV's
booth  at this year's Fair.  I had the chance to participate
last year and definitely found it to  be  a  very  rewarding
experience,  and  if  my work schedule will allow for it - I
hope to be able to lend my support to this again this  year.
I  encourage  any/all  Longstreet  Camp members to volunteer
some of their time to assist Commander  Millikin  with  this
venture.  I think you will find it as rewarding as I did.   

Don't forget to turn in your annual dues statement to Walter
- you should have received a statement in the mail  already.
If  you did not receive a statement and are in good standing
with Longstreet Camp and  the  Virginia  Division-SCV,  then
please contact Walter Tucker or me and we will get a form to
you.  If you know of anyone who was a Longstreet Camp member
in  the  past,  but  may  have let their membership expire -
please let Walter or me know so that we may contact them  to
see if they would be interested in re-joining.              

I  look  forward to seeing everyone at our next Camp meeting
in September - it promises to be an excellent meeting.      

Remember -                                                   
"Longstreet is the Camp boys - Longstreet is  the Camp!"

Deo Vindice!                                                


We have sent to  International  Headquarters  two  certified
membership  applications  for  prospective  new members John
Almond and Joshua Stanton.  John's ancestor Robert A.   Ward
served in Company B of the 22nd Virginia Infantry Battalion.
Joshua 's ancestor Benjamin J.   Stanton  was  a  member  of
Company F of the 10th Virginia Infantry Regiment.           

New  to  our  Camp is James D.  Bradford, who transferred to
Longstreet  from  Dearing-Beauregard  camp  #   1813.    His
ancestor  James  C.   Bradford  served  in the 3rd Tennessee

It  was  previously  reported  that  Jason  Fazackarley   of
Portsmouth, England transferred to Captain John Low CSN Camp
# 2121.  Jason decided to continue to  call  Longstreet  his
home camp, so he transferred back to us.                    

We welcome all these gentlemen to our Camp.                 

Congratulations  to Camp members and wives who have recently
had children.  Richard and Karen Campbell  had  a  daughter,
Alice  Boyd  Campbell.  Elizabeth Carter Knowles was born to
Bolling and Darci Knowles.  Delighted grandparents are  Camp
members  and  wives  Barton  and  Madge  Campbell  and Peter
Knowles, II and Brantlley Knowles.                          

As the years advance, our camp members  seem  to  give  more
(too  much?) business to doctors.  Ben Baird has been in the
hospital twice recently with heart problems.  Ben is  unable
to  attend  our  meetings, but he remains loyal to our camp.
Pat Hoggard had hip replacement surgery in  July.   He  went
home  on  time  and  is doing well.  The hospital gave Pat's
wife Sarah a button which had the word "Coach" on it.   Pat,
always  a  good  team member, will naturally do what "Coach"
tells him.  Pat has graduated from physical therapy  and  is
now  on his own, fortunately under the watchful eye of Coach

As we enter a new camp year, some thank you's are in  order.
First,  to  all of our members who donated generously to The
Old War Horse and to the Buck Hurtt Scholarship Fund.  Next,
to  Dave  George  who,  with the able assistance of his wife
Marion, edits,  publishes,  and  distributes  our  excellent
newsletter.  Then, to Gary Cowardin who maintains our Camp's
web site.  Lastly,  to  all  our  loyal  members  for  their
continuing support of our camp and its activities.          

Renewal  dues  notices  have been mailed out by the Virginia
Division.  Please call me if you did not receive  a  notice.
The  procedure  is better this year, since dues come to camp
adjutants, who in turn will send the National  and  Division
shares of dues to the Division treasurer.  Division plans to
send National its share of dues  every  two  weeks.   Checks
received  by  me  are  deposited  either  the  day  they are
received or the following business  day,  depending  on  how
early  the  mail  comes.   Dues are coming in nicely.  Three
batches of dues have been sent to Division as of August  15.
Several members sent in with their dues contributions to The
Old War Horse, to the Hurtt Scholarship Fund, and to various
Division  projects.   Your prompt action and your generosity
are much appreciated.                                       

They told me at Ukrop's that I'm not too old to read the new
free  magazine  Boomer  Life.   It  was  great seeing former
Richmond  Times-Dispatch  writers  on  a  recent  cover  and
reading  their articles.  I just wish they were still at the
T-D.  The current issue has a story about Field Days of  the
Past, for which our camp member Bobby Williams does a lot of
good work.  Thank you, Bobby.  This  takes  place  September
19-20-21 on route 623 half a mile north of Broad Street Road
(Route 250).                                                

One of my favorite  periods  of  history  is  the  seemingly
endless war (1793-1815) pitting Great Britain and its allies
against France.  Bernard Cornwell  has  a  great  series  of
novels  featuring  Richard  Sharpe,  born  into poverty, who
joined the army as a way out.   He  received  a  battlefield
commission  in  India  for  saving  the  life  of Sir Arthur
Wellesley (later Duke of  Wellington).   Sharpe  is  a  fine
warrior, but doesn't do well when the shooting stops, partly
because he is not accepted by some incompetent  aristocratic
officers who purchased their commissions.                   

In  Sharpe's Prey, about the less well known 1807 Copenhagen
campaign, Sharpe has been  appointed  quartermaster  and  is
thinking  of  leaving the army.  Division Commanding Officer
Major General David Baird (1757-1829), who  does  appreciate
good  soldiers,  tells  him,  "The  Lord giveth and the Lord
taketh away, and you don't piddle your life away because you
don't  like  his  dispositions." Baird himself lived by that
sound philosophy.  He was a POW for four years in India.  He
fell  out with Wellesley and left India.  Baird was captured
at sea and released shortly thereafter.  He was dismissed as
Governor of the Cape after the Buenos Aires fiasco.  He lost
an arm in 1809 at Corunna, where Sir John Moore was  killed.
Baird  was  made  a  baronet  and promoted General 1814.  He
became Governor of Kinsale  1819  and  became  Commander  in
Chief  Ireland  1820-1829.  Baird later was Governor of Fort
George, Inverness, Scotland  holding  that  post  until  his
death 1829.                                                 

Our   Confederate  ancestors  who  survived  the  Civil  War
experienced something that no Americans before or since  had
to  endure.   Their nation went out of existence.  Some left
the country, never to return.  Most returned to  a  homeland
devastated by The War.  A tiny few succeeded in politics and
business; most did not, exerting themselves in their fields,
their  shops,  and  their  stores and in many cases watching
their property taken away by  carpetbaggers  and  scalawags.
This  had  to be the worst time in the history of the South.
The fact that they persevered is evidenced by the fact  that
we  are  here today.  We should honor them for their courage
in rebuilding the postwar South as much as we do  for  their
military service in The War.                                

Hope  your  summer  is  good.   Look  forward  to seeing you
September 16.  Bring a friend to enjoy our fellowship.      







Our upcoming speaker will be Fred Taylor, who  will  present
"Last  Battle  at  Appomattox-An Historical Account of North
Carolina's Claim of Being "Last at  Appomattox."  This  will
include  an  in-depth look at the final hours of The Army of
Northern Virginia.                                          

This should prove to be a very interesting program.  Be sure
to  come  for  it  and  help  us  to give Mr.  Taylor a warm
Longstreet welcome.                                         


Martin and Mary Schaller gave a dramatic reading  in  period
dress  from  their  book Soldiering For Glory.  This book is
based on the life and times  of  Mr.   Schaller's  ancestor,
Col.   Frank  Schaller.  Col.  Schaller was a very ambitious
European immigrant who was already  a  professional  soldier
before  coming  to  America.   The  Schallers  detailed  his
soldiering background, his  wartime  triumphs  and  setbacks
along with his love interest and future wife, Sofie.        

Col.   Schaller was a very flamboyant character and thirsted
for fame and recognition.   Although  he  didn't  reach  the
level  of  fame  achieved  by  Lee  and  Jackson, he has now
finally achieved a greater level of recognition through  the
hard work and devotion of his descendant Martin Schaller and
Martin's wife, Mary.                                        




Commander: Michael Kidd 270-9651 1st. Lt. Cmdr.: Taylor Cowardin 359-9277 2nd Lt. Cmdr.: Thomas G. Vance 282-6278 Adjutant/Treasurer: Walter Tucker 360-7247 Judge Advocate: Harry Boyd 741-2060 Quartermaster: R. Preston Nuttall 276-8977 Chaplain: Henry V. Langford 474-1978


Webmaster: Gary F. Cowardin 262-0534 Website: War Horse: David P. George 200-1311



The following is a listing of contributors to the upkeep  of
"The  Old  War  Horse" from July, 2008.  through the current
month.  As you know, our cumulative listing starts  in  July
of each year and we do not meet in August.                  

Lloyd Brooks
Taylor Cowardin
Peter Knowles, II
Joe Moschetti

* - Multiple contributions                 


Peter Knowles, II Joe Moschetti


Walter Beam Crawley Joyner Bob Moore Cary Shelton


"Recognizing that it certainly isn't true of all of us, I would propose that a Southerner is distinguished by a sense of neighborliness, a garrulous quality, a wish to get together a lot." Charles Kuralt, in "Southerners: Portrait of a People"


Don't forget Pamplin Park and the Museum of the Civil War Soldier!! Contact them at their website, for full information and event schedule. Also take time to visit The Museum of the Confederacy!! Reach them through their website,


Dear Compatriots, I hope you are well. You may remember back in April the announcement concerning our DNA project. If you have not tried this for yourself and are interested in furthering your own genealogical research, I have news that I am sure you will find interesting. The arrangements the SCV has made to allow our members to do this research using Family Tree DNA has just gotten better. Family Tree DNA set up a group program, offering us discounts and profit sharing for the SCV. But right now and until the end of August, they are giving us an even better deal. Family Tree DNA is offering a significant discount on many of their test upgrades. This promotion is geared towards bringing new members to the SCV by offering the following big incentives: Y-DNA12 orders include a FREE mtDNA test (Y-DNA12+mtDNA promotion price of $99; normally $189) Y-DNA25 orders include a FREE mtDNA test (Y-DNA25+mtDNA promotion price of $148; normally $238) Y-DNA37 orders price REDUCED to $119 (normally $189) Y-DNA37+mtDNAPlus orders price REDUCED to $189 (normally $339) Y-DNA67+mtDNAPlus orders price REDUCED to $288 (normally $409) mtDNAPlus price REDUCED to $149 (normally $189) This promotion goes into effect immediately and will be available until August 31st, 11:59PM CST. Take advantage of this while you can. Please visit Family Tree DNA's web site and look it over. If you decide you would like to join the project you can do so from this link: The current promotion is already included in the options. Genetic genealogy through the use of DNA is growing rapidly. It allows us to connect with other people that have perhaps more information to add to our family mystery. The following are web sites that go further into depth on this fascinating subject. I hope you find this service useful in your genealogical search. Please feel free to email me with any questions. I am, Respectfully yours, Michael Givens Lt. Commander-in-Chief Sons of Confederate Veterans


The less people know about sausages and laws are made, the better they'll sleep at night. When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. Otto von Bismark, German Chancellor


Senator Lawton Chiles of Florida discovered that among the 4,987 forms used by the federal government was one that would be sent to city officials after a nuclear attack asking how many citizens survived, he was moved to comment, "The implication is that even if nothing else survives a nuclear blast, the bureaucracy will rise from the ashes,"

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